Ferrari head: Rear wings are "vulgar".

"davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com" (davesaddiction) 01/23/2014 at 08:00 • Filed to: None

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A rear wing was rejected because engineers consider them kludges and, as Ferrari chairman Luca di Montezemolo declared after helicoptering in to Fiorano from nearby Bologna, "I find them vulgar."

From Automobile, February 2014, on the 458 Speciale

I tend to agree, but if this is wrong, I'm not sure I want to be right...

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/23/2014 at 08:05

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Ricer wings are now cool since they piss Ferrari off.

Krieger (@FSKrieger22) > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/23/2014 at 08:18

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I think they've been thinking that since the days of the 360. Funnily, their race cars always have them regardless...

Ravey Mayvey Slurpee Surprise > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/23/2014 at 08:26

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Lamborghini's response?

"Wings are like cocaine: NEVER ENOUGH!"

James > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/23/2014 at 08:30

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In all fairness, I think the F40 was more of a production race car than a super car. And in its time, it was definitely a tamer look than the Countach. While I absolutely love the F40, I tend to agree more with Montezemolo in most cases. I seem to always prefer a body molded wing to the park bench alternative. Just looks cleaner.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS 01/23/2014 at 08:31

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It's only a ricer wing if it's on a FWD car ;).

Bad Idea Hat > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/23/2014 at 08:33

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I'M SO TORN

McChiken116 - Patrick H. > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/23/2014 at 08:47

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It's like they forgot the 40 and the 50. Even the Enzo had a bit of aero. Not a giant wing, but still. I guess when you're already going to catch fire, you don't need downforce?

Enginerrrrrrrrr > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/23/2014 at 09:03

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I agree that their current cars don't have the right body style for wings... maybe the La Ferrari... but still. They can be perfect on certain cars.

Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/23/2014 at 09:38

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God bless you, Ferrari.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > McChiken116 - Patrick H. 01/23/2014 at 09:59

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TONS of aero on the Enzo (and on the 458 Speciale - check out the side-skirts), but no wing. Plenty of ways to make downforce w/o one.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Ravey Mayvey Slurpee Surprise 01/23/2014 at 10:00

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Have you the wing ?

Makoyouidiot > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/23/2014 at 10:30

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Wings are glorious. Be they on a Civic or a supercar. God save the wings!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Makoyouidiot 01/23/2014 at 11:56

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I'm on board with "Save the Whales" and the high tech spoilers/air brakes on many modern sports cars, but the vast majority are so terrible, and generally not functional.

Chteelers > Ravey Mayvey Slurpee Surprise 01/23/2014 at 13:29

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Chteelers > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/23/2014 at 13:30

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Wings on roadcars are good under two conditions. They must be factory. They must adorn a car capable of speeds where the wing is justified.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Chteelers 01/23/2014 at 14:21

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Just because the car is capable of high speeds doesn't mean the wing is necessarily functional. But yes, factory + functional is okay in my book, even though I often prefer the sleeker, sleeper-er look of a rear spoiler delete.

Chteelers > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/23/2014 at 15:00

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Agreed. That should be a third criteria; the wing must be functional.

Squid > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 01/23/2014 at 15:16

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Is this rice?

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Squid 01/23/2014 at 16:49

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dunno, Kinja'd

Makoyouidiot > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/23/2014 at 18:33

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I honestly couldn't care less about function with wings/spoilers. As long as they look cool.

Squid > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 01/23/2014 at 19:18

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God dammit! It was a picture of the abomination that is the front winged Tc that the douchebag Chris Rado drove in one of the time attack series.

King Ginger, not writing for Business Insider > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/23/2014 at 21:10

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To be fair, a full wing vs. a subtle spoiler is kind of a different. I wonder where the line is in actual size shape...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > King Ginger, not writing for Business Insider 01/24/2014 at 08:36

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I think "wing" differentiates from the more generic term "spoiler" when there's clear separation from the body of the car itself. A ducktail spoiler is integrated, a lip spoiler is attached to the car the full length of the part. In my mind, a wing is attached in two or three places and allows airflow both above and below.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Squid 01/24/2014 at 08:39

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Ah, well as retarded as that TC looked. The wing was actually serving a useful perpose so I don't know if that is considered "ricer".

Saf1 > Ravey Mayvey Slurpee Surprise 01/24/2014 at 14:31

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The GTR absolutely pushes the limits of big-but-not-garish wing. LOVE IT!!

Saf1 > Enginerrrrrrrrr 01/24/2014 at 14:34

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I'd never seen that pic of the F40 C before, got more? (Did try daidegas.it but 0 results!)

Enginerrrrrrrrr > Saf1 01/24/2014 at 23:49

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If you google "ferrari f40 salt flats" you can find that same shot. I couldn't find it in any different angle though...

I originally found the picture on some car tumblr

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/25/2014 at 14:25

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He's right, I mean modern designs look so cluttered with wings. Not to mention they add quite a bit of drag. There are lots of ways to make downforce by just correctly shaping the body, as newer cars have shown. But I still love the F40/F50.

Shanon Wagner > Chteelers 01/27/2014 at 03:01

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What's extra funny about that image, is that the front wing is only there to reduce the counter productive front lift created by the rear wing.

Manuél Ferrari > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/09/2014 at 01:30

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But the funny thing about this is that the front end of the extra special 458 is pretty vulgar. Not attaching a wing to the back end doesn't keep a car from being vulgar...